[pmwiki-users] Re: Solution converting ISO-8859-1 wikifiles to UTF-8

Sun Apr 17 20:38:24 CDT 2005

Hi Oldal!

I made a small modification to the forum script - I haven't really
rolled it out to my users yet, but I've tested it and I think it works
OK:

http://www.k12.nf.ca/williamgillett/index.php/Forum/HomePage

I think the only change I made was to change the line that said:

"\n||''$name''||[[".substr($newpage,strpos($newpage,'.')+1)."]]
$topictitle &nbsp;||%green%&nbsp;''".

to say 

"\n||''$name''||[[".substr($newpage,strpos($newpage,'.')+1)." |
$topictitle]] &nbsp;||%green%&nbsp;''".

i.e. put topictitle in the bracket - I have no experience with php, but
this seemed to make sense to me and it looks great.  I just decided to
put a generic title in the groupheader for my forum group as well,
seeing as each topic lists the topic title on the top of each page
anyhow.

Let me know if this helps.

Jason Counsel

 --- Algis Kabaila <akabaila at pcug.org.au> wrote: 
> On Monday 18 April 2005 02:06, pmwiki-users-request at pmichaud.com
> wrote:
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:04:35 -0500
> > From: "Patrick R. Michaud" <pmichaud at pobox.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pmwiki-users] Solution converting ISO-8859-1
> wikifiles
> >         to UTF-8
> > To: Laurent Meister <meister at apfelwiki.de>
> > Cc: pmwiki-users at pmichaud.com
> > Message-ID: <20050417140435.GF32097 at pmichaud.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > 
> 
> It's interesting to know that Aggies have the biggest PmWiki, but is
> not 
> everything in Aggie-land biggest in the world - after all, TX is
> bigger than 
> USA, as many maps in Austin will testify.
> 
> But what has this to do with iso-8859 to utf-8 conversion?
> 
> On a more serious note, I think that it would be useful to have a
> separate 
> forum (mailing list, or a PmWiki forum, or even a PmWiki
> newbies-Group, or 
> even just a simple "flag" in the subject field) for newbies
> discussion?  
> Having tried to follow the discussions on this great mailing list, I
> find 
> that the high technical content is intimidating for newbies, young
> and old.  
> This is not to say that the simple ("stupid") questions are not dealt
> with 
> politely, effectively and with a great deal of sympathy - they are. 
> And all 
> questions **are** indeed encouraged.  
> 
> However, when a discussion of technical nature is at such a frenetic
> pace and 
> a new kind of wiki is in its birth pains, how can a simple minded
> fellow 
> (like I), who does not know how to effectively use CSS and is too
> slow to 
> learn (either because he/she has little use for it or for some other
> reason) 
> have the audacity to interrupt the flow of programming suggestions
> and 
> thoughts with some mundane question that has been resolved weeks or
> months 
> ago, but for which he/she can not find an answer?
> 
> Now for an example of such a question: I have implemented on our PCUG
> PmWiki 
> here in down-under Canberra a "Guestbook" and a "Forum".  Forum
> suffers from 
> one unnecessary drawback, which IMHO, could be easily rectified - the
> page 
> names, which I think are created from the subject+dateTimeStamp, when
> 
> displayed in large font, overflow the page limits, making the page
> wider than 
> usual (with edit, history etc. menu disappearing out of sight).  
> 
> It would help to reduce the length of  the auto generated page names
> (Perhaps 
> using the first word of a subject-dateTimeStamp and a smaller font
> for page 
> names).  How can we do that?
> 
> OK, I have now asked a trivial question, so here goes another.
> 
> Our PCUG organisation is full of stogie oldies, who are intimidated
> by the 
> very nature of wiki freedoms that allow edit by someone else their
> writing. 
> 
> It would have been less intimidating to first introduce them to a
> local Forum, 
> than a wiki.  What are our chances of having an enhanced PmWiki based
> forum, 
> perhaps a special PmWiki farm?  Perhaps a group of forums, each with
> its  
> title displayed on the side bar?
> 
> Pm has made the PmWiki into such a flexible tool that such an
> enhancement 
> should be possible without too great an effort.  You see, forums are
> less 
> intimidating: whilst they allow a free exchange of letters and a free
> 
> discussion, they do not (in general) allow changes of someones'
> spelling 
> mistakes and the like.  And that would be more familiar to many
> oldies, who 
> are used to old fashion newsgroups.  
> 
> It would be a smaller step to take than the new world of
> wiki-freedoms,  
> therefore less intimidating.  Newbies might even try the freedoms of
> Open 
> Source and Open Source Operating Systems.  There is an awful lot of
> people 
> who are so hostile to the latter, that it must be the fear of the
> untried 
> that causes such hostility.
> 
> Enough ranting - with apologies and thanks for your forbearance.
> 
> OldAl.
> 
> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 12:24:40AM +0200, Laurent Meister wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'm a little curious, did you know which is the largest pmwiki
> (for ex. 
> > > number of wikipages, included-cookbook receipts, number of farms)
> or 
> > > how many large pmwiki exist?
> > 
> > My guess is that the TAMUCC wiki is the largest PmWiki at the
> > moment.  It's a wikifarm of five wikis, with page counts of:
> > 
> >     http://falcon.tamucc.edu/wiki         89,929
> >     http://firstyear.tamucc.edu/wiki      26,505
> >     http://english.tamucc.edu/wiki         7,891
> >     http://writing.tamucc.edu/wiki        11,487
> >     http://community.tamucc.edu/wiki       1,969
> > 
> >     (Total pages in the farm: 137,781 pages)
> > 
> > I don't know how many other "big" pmwikis are out there.
> > 
> > Pm
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Algis Kabaila
> http://www.pcug.org.au/~akabaila
> 
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